Re: [Cooker] Firefox3 beta for 2008.1??

[Frederic Crozat]

Le mercredi 30 avril 2008 à 08:17 -0600, Vincent Danen a écrit :
> * [2008-04-30 10:02:19 +0200] G?tz Waschk wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Vincent Danen <vdanen@mandriva.com> wrote:
> >>  At the same time, can we please stop with versioned libs or figure out a
> >>  way so that everything that uses firefox as a buildrequires doesn't need
> >>  to be recompiled every time we push an update?
> >>  It seriously looks like we're the only ones who push such retardedly
> >>  large updates everytime a new ff/tb comes out, and it's really past time
> >>  to fix that.
> >As Fréd is on vacation I have to repeat his mantra: this is not
> >possible, only when we go to xulrunner. But he doesn't want to do that
> >as it is not supported upstream by Mozilla.com. Fedora can do this
> >themselves as they have the manpower.
> 
> This is a foolish cop-out.  There is a lot of stuff we're taking almost
> straight from Fedora/Red Hat now, like mkinitrd and other things so that
> maintenance can be eased.  Why is firefox such a different case?

Because it takes time to maintain something which is not maintained
upstream.

Anyway, before Marcelo left, we discussed by Christopher Blizzard about
those issues (xulrunner not being released by mozilla.org) and it
appears xulrunner is "kind of maintained" by Mozilla.org : you just grab
firefox source tarball and build with the "xulrunner" flags and you get
xulrunner.

So, it was decided we would do the switch to Xulrunner when we do the
switch to FF3. 

> And it's not just Fedora that's doing this... look at any other distro
> and you'll see that none of them are putting out over 3GB worth of junk
> everytime firefox is updated.

Maybe because they like to continue shipping their software with
vulnerabilities (it has been the case initially when SUSE used
xulrunner, not fixing security bugs in applications depending on
gecko..).

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Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@mandriva.com>
Mandriva