[cooker-amd64] Re: Sata and sensors for Tyan 2885

[Duncan]

Rui Pimenta posted <200402061314.08997.rpimenta@runbox.com>, excerpted
below,  on Fri, 06 Feb 2004 13:15:03 +0100:

> I am sorry for this late reply especially to Duncan 'coz I had to sort out 
> lots here at the office.

No prob!  I definitely understand, and have been keeping more than busy
myself.  <g>

> SATA:
> Fortunately I managed to install mandrake on my SATA HD (which are the
> only one that I have), Unfortunately I had to got with mdk 10 beta 1 (32
> bit). This was the only version that could detect my SATA hard drives
> when doing a fresh installation. I do know know if there is a planned
> mdk 10 beta (amd64). If so can anyone tell me where because I would like
> very much to install it. Because the last version of the cooker still is
> the 9.2 I think. 

AFAIK and from what GB has said, there aren't any immediate plans for an
AMD64 Mdk10 ISO, at least not until RC time, then maybe..

However, thanks to the hard work of Stephan and others, most of the 10.0
cooker stuff is available for AMD64 as well.  The packages that aren't..
are having porting issues, which are being worked on with varying degrees
of success and cooperation from the main Mdk i586 maintainers.  The
biggest hole is KDE, as the person that is the Mdk KDE team simply doesn't
seem to care very much about AMD64, and/or there's a cooperation problem
between him and the folks working hardest on AMD64..  None of the newer
KDE packages found in Cooker 10 have been ported, for the most part, save
for some of the non-core stuff like K3B.

Thus, with the exception of KDE (unfortunately for me, using it as my
desktop) once AMD64 is INSTALLED, 9.2 or otherwise, it should be possible
to upgrade to AMD64 10.0 Cooker, and stay /almost/ up with i586 cooker. 
(Last I checked, the other big catch was a single perl-GTK2 package and
its prereqs holding up a number of the package updates such as harddrake,
rpmdrake, etc. that make Mandrake uniquely Mandrake.  However, those are
indeed being worked on, and in fact it's possible they've been fixed while
I've been busy with other stuff as I haven't urpmified in 3-4 days or so.)

However.. that does NOT take care of installation.

What I'd suggest you do, if you are really interested in playing with
the 64-bit stuff, is get a small/cheap 20-40 gig or so standard IDE drive,
to do the initial install of the 9.2-rc1 ISO with.  Well, either that or
try the release 9.2, either d/led when it becomes available or by
purchasing it.

I'm thinking of doing the reverse, installing a cheap/small SATA drive,
that I can experiment with getting working.  Then at least I know it'll
work.  As I've previously posted, I've been experimenting with the various
2.6 kernels, and I noticed some Silicon Image SATA changes listed in the
2.6.2 changelog.  Previously, I remember it marked as broken.  Now, that
driver is no longer listed as broken, but appears with regular ATA drivers
rather than under the SCSI support, SATA subsection, as the Promise and
some other SATA drivers do.  If I just had a disk big enough to try..  I
could see it would indeed work as I hope/expect, and what other issues I
may have (such as what it shows up as under /dev and whether it appears as
/dev/hda.. etc. pushing standard IDE down, or appears under them as
/dev/hde and onward, or appears as /dev/sda etc, or just what...).  

I expect, once someone confirms it working, even if it takes some jerry
rigging like installing to PATA then upgrading to kernel 2.6.2 to get SATA
support, we might get a bit of company here, with the board.

> LM_Sensors:
> Duncan asked about the LM_Sensors. Well they are working on mdk10. and what I 
> did was just to install the LM_Sensors package and used the sensors file 
> provided by TYAN loaded the modules that they mention and everything is 
> working fine:

COOL!  I'll be saving this to go over later.  Do you happen to have the
URL to the Tyan info on this?  I can probably find it on the site, but if
you have it handy, it'd save me the trouble of having to search.

..  I just installed the 2.6.2 vanilla kernel.org kernel, configured for
my system for the most part, and was running the Mdk std and tmb
2.6.2-rc1 kernels, again specifically configured for my system before, but
decided to go with the kernel.org kernel and deleted them.  I know the
lmsensors docs say 2.6 is better for that, but haven't tried it since my
last experiment with it failed under 2.4, so don't know if it works under
2.6 or not.

Anyway, I now know it CAN work specifically on THIS board (tho don't know
about 64-bit, yet), and have some idea of the modules I need, and that
there's more info available from TYAN, so prospects are looking pretty
good.  I'll just have to find the time to investigate them.  <g>

THANKS!

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