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I can't seem to find any amd64 cooker contrib mirrors that urpmi can use,
because they either don't have an hdlist file, or if I find one, it points
to the i586 stuff instead of amd64 stuff.  Is there such an animal?

With 9.2 for amd64 now available, when will it hit the mirrors?  When it
does, will there be a properly urpmi functional contribs on them as well? 
What about cooker?  Will it then more or less sync to i586 cooker?  Why is
there a Mdk 10.0 test snapshot available for i586 but not amd64?  Does
that mean the amd64 architecture is NEVER going to sync, only be supported
in fits and starts with various arbitrary releases, and never be fully and
continuously updated more or less, as i586 cooker is?  Will we always be
limited to a comparatively small subset of the i586 main+cooker packages?

I'm asking, because I read the initial answers here as saying they'd
pretty much sync after the freeze for 9.2 for amd64 was lifted.  Pr// os
a;; the time I'm investing in Mdk in particular for amd64, now, a waste,
and I'll need to go looking for another distrib?

One of the reasons I'm asking is that I read the announcement yesterday
on LWN that it was out now, and went to Mdk-store, fully expecting to
purchase it.  I'm and individual, not a business, so I first look there. 
**NOTHING** for amd64 in the individual offerings at the store!  The biz
listing does offer a $100 4-CD set for 9.2 for AMD64, but obviously,
that's a frozen-in-time snapshot.  There's no indication on the mirrors or
elsewhere that there will be a whole lot continuing as with Cooker, and no
urpmi-fied amd64 cooker contrib mirrors at all, that I know of.

Maybe club was what I was looking for?  Go over there, card in hand, ready
to sign up, and again, as with the individual Mdk-store offerings, not a
mention of amd64 in site.  There's all sorts of mentions of discounts on
commercial services I don't want or need.  There's mention of mirrors, but
no mention of whether they have amd64 versions or not, contrib on it or
not, at least available to an unregistered user.  There's lots of mentions
of all the closed source stuff available for free or again at a discount
for club users, but if I wanted proprietary-ware, I'd still be posting to
the IE newsgroups, not the Mdk lists.  Lots of mentions of special
"early-release" builds of KDE/Gnome/etc, for club members, but that comes
with cooker and from what I read the packaging on Cooker is more Mdk
consistent anyway, so I don't need club-packages, if I have a decently
updated amd64 cooker.  Mentions of proprietary-ware drivers, that again
I don't want on my system, and I just dumped NVidia to get rid of it and
don't want them back, so that doesn't help.  NO MENTION  AT ALL OF THE ONE
SERVICE I COULD ACTUALLY USE, DEPENDABLE, BROAD-BASED, COOKER OR
COOKER-LIKE, CONTINUOUSLY DEVELOPED, AMD64 BASED MANDRAKE DOWNLOAD SOURCES!!

After working yesterday evening, and having to work again this AM, I
stayed up all nite looking for the right Mdk product to spend my $$ on,
and support the distrib and the company.  Unfortunately, it doesn't appear
there's any such animal, and along with still no real indication Mdk-AMD64
is not only going to be updatable in fits and spurts, I'm a pretty
frustrated and unhappy camper right about now!  I expected to have the $$
safely on their way to Mdk by now, and the confidence that I was
supporting continuing development on my platform, both hardware and
software, of choice.  That hasn't happened and I'm now short on sleep
after attempting to try to find the proper way to HELP it happen, and I'm
pretty frustrated with the whole thing, right now!

That said, I can't let this post, without mentioning how grateful I am to
GB and Steven and the others that have put all that tremendous amount of
work into getting the Mdk amd64 platform where it is right now.  All that
work isn't without appreciation.  I just don't want to see it go to waste,
with a limited offering on what I believe will eventually become the
dominant hardware of the future, much like I believe Linux will be the
dominant OS/software platform, in a few years.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --
Benjamin Franklin




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